Archive for July, 2009.

What is the Greenhouse effect?

I have heard so many different explanations I am wanting some clarification. I am a little confused about the thermodynamics.

1. I have read it works like a blanket, or insulation. Piping Insulation does not transfer heat back to the pipe. Insulation calculations also do not use radiation, and the insulating factor is the air in the foam not the air. It appears to me if this explanation was used we are talking about convection, not radiation. Insulation on a pipe does have a temperature gradient linear like the earth.
2. I have seen the word re-radiate used. I alwaysed used the Q=A F12 S(T^4-Te^4) Sorry I can not get an epsilon or sigma on my post. Every time I try it I get a negative heat transfer from the earth to the CO2. I have read something about an Open system, but have never seen it defined, derived or calculated.
3. I from my own background believe what is really happening and makes thermo since is, most of the effect is at the ground level. The air above a hotspot, (an unshaded area) gets warmer than the shade, and it can re-radiate to the shade. In the upper atmoshere Greenhouse gasses will warm and convect and radiate to the gasses around them, then they will to the gasses around them, ultimately warming the ground.

Rock,
Are you saying that it just absorbs the reflcted poriton, and not the radiated portion of the earth? A greenhouse does not work that way. It is do to a loss of convection.
I understand what the theory is, I was just wanting to know what deffinition would be used. I have already seen reflected and absorbed. Wikki says absorbed. I agree reflected makes more since.
What is the re-radiation calculation of one molecule of CO2@ 0degF to the earth at 70 def F.
I figured no-one on yahoo could answer this. I took 12 hours of thermo/heattransfer in college. I am by no means an expert, but know enough that most people butcher the second law, and butcher the difference between heat and energy.

"Greenhouse" is a poor analogy, IMO. A greenhouse loses heat by convection, the earth loses heat by radiation. They use this analogy because people think they understand it.

That said, CO2 absorbs certain wavelengths of light that would normally be radiated out into space. The more CO2 there is, the more these wavelengths get absorbed. The global warming proponents state that this slight (in absolute, but high in relative) increase of CO2 is causing slightly more heat to be re-radiated back to earth.

Computer models (depending on the assumptions, of course) predict a further warming of the earth. Stand by for real-world confirmation or refutation….

Condensation in shed need help?

So i built a shed. I insulated the 2×4 walls but did not get to the ceiling yet. It’s cool outside and when I warm up the shed via space heater or even on a warm day, I get condensation in the insulation and in the rafter beams. I have a few nails sticking through from outside and they bead up and later drip, the joist brackets are beading up too. The siding LP is beading up too on the inside. I put some 1/8 inch wood paneling on the inside and it’s getting wet and the screws I used to put it up also beads and gets wet. This condensation is only happening on the sides that don’t get any sun. I put a sheet metal roofing on top of 15 lb felt over plywood. I know the shed is not leaking as it does this only when its warm in the shed. How can I fix this? My concern is that if I insulate the roof and seal it off with wood it will continue to condensate inside and then mold. I was thinking of getting some of that Foam Insulation board to put between the joists. But then today I saw the joist brackets beading up too. So Do I need to put on thicker siding or just insulate the ceiling and cover? Do I need to do those things and put vents up there? Seriously, just telling me to put a moisture barrier up doesn’t help, I need some detailed help before the thing molds. Thank you for your help. please see pic http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu85/centrapoint/Shed.jpg

You need to install ventilation, even if it is the smaller ones. Just something to let the air flow a little.
My shed did’nt have them when we bought the house and it has created mold, mildew and in the summer the stench will knock you over.

Foam insulation spray roofing, Greenest way to build?

Foam and the new building technolodgy’s are coming to New Orleans. The rebuilding is causing New Orleans to be the "Greenest City in America". Energy Efficiency and the proper buiilding techniques tak hold.
What is the difference in cost to build "green"? What is the ROI?
Who is best to consult with on these topics???

And the question is????